HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/26/1972MEETING IN COMMITTEE
4:00 p.m. May 26, 1972.
Present: E.R. Lovekin B.A. LL.B., Chairman
K. Schoenmaker, Member
E.F.R. Osborne, Member
,The Committee inspected properties on Friday, May 26,
19729 following which a meeting in Committee was held at
the home of member K. Schoenmaker Esq., to discuss the
applications concerned and to review the salary of Secretary -
Treasurer Mrs. Ellen M. Yeo.
Application File "B"1.1-72 W. Kay Lycett Q.C., Agent,
Barrister & Solicitor,
Allison Cowan, Owner,
87 Fenn Avenue, Willowdale, Ont.,
for part -of Lot 31, Con 5,
Township of Clarke,
Submission No. "B1111-72-7
As business arising from minutes of meeting May 23, 1972,
this application was brought forward for further consideration.
As a matter.of record the entire Committee inspected
this property and the following facts.were noted:.
1. This is the last lot in the area and hence an
"infilling" operation in a row of houses built
on the west side of the "Forestry Farm" on the
west side of the Police Village of Oroho.-The
lot is 2001x2001, a generous size for a lot
in this area. The lot is ideal for a residence
in a "Police Village";
2. The area is zoned "agricultural",; a zoning
completely out of character wit) the immediate
factual situation re this row of houses. The
Committee viewed the situation as an "infilling"
operation in a "ribbon development" situation
on the edge of the Police Village of Orono;,,
It would appear that a rezoning for this particular area
might be appropriate but that, of course, is not a matter within
the prerogatives of this Committee and this may.have been rejected
because of the "Forestry Farm" across the road.
It would appear that this is the final lot that can be
created in this "ribbon" of houses, and future development will.
have to be by way of a registered plan on lands to the West.
The Committee reviewed the minutes of May 23, 1972 and
on motion by K. Schoenmaker, seconded by E.F.R. Osborne this
application was granted because of the proximity of the lot to
the Police Village of Orono generally, and_,because of the nature
of the existing surrounding area in particular. Carried.
CLASSIFICATION 10 !'A"
Application File No. "A"21-720 Clarke Fishing & Conservation
Club, Owner, 378 King St, W.,
Oshawa, Ontario,
J.B. McMullan, Agent,
378 King St. W. Oshawa, Ontario,
for part of Lot 32, Con 7,
Township of Clarke,
Submission No.
As business arising from minutes of meeting May 23, 19729
this application was brought forward for further consideration.
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Meeting in Committee, May 267 1972:
As a matter of record the entire Committee visited the
site on Friday, May 26, 1972. The Committee had the benefit
of the map supplied by the applicant and orientated themselves
to the site.
The following facts were noted:
1. A large flat area at a nearly constant elevation
ran north and south on the west side of the pond
about 10 to 12 feet above pond level (estimate
elevation only). Generally it looked like a small
emergency landing strip of the type built in remote
bushland adjacent to good fishing areas. The bank
sloping down to the pond from the top of this man-
made plateau had been sown to grass seed. The edge
of this seeded area at the edge of the plateau was
approximately 60 feet from the waters edge of the
pond.
2. The applicants own approximately 46.93 acres of land
and to grant a variance reducing a 100 foot set back
to 25 feet would require the most urgent reasons.
The Committee were unable to see that even if they
subscribed to the suggestion that esthetics were
important, that the best location for a building was,
in fact, 25 feet from the pond;
3. Obviously the owners had moved a great deal of earth,
and some attention to landscaping could easily locate
a building farther back from the pond than 25 feet
with no real hardship to the applicants;
If the applicants wish an immediate decision on the application
as filed, they may so advise the Committee and in that event the
decision will be in the negative. It may be there are factors here
which were not fully appreciated by the Committee.
If the applicants wish to lead further evidence and apply for
a "minor variance" other than 25 feet, with supporting reasons,
such an amended application will be given further consideration.
The Secretary is hereby instructed to write to the applicants
sending them a copy of these minutes and asking them if they
wish to amend their application or whether they wish a decision
on the application as filed.
Application adjourned pending further advice from the applicants.
CLASSIFICATION 10 "A"
Application File No. "A"10-72
Gary & Marilyn Hancock, Owners,
R.R. 42, Orono, Ontario,
for part of Lot 30, Con 5,
Township of Clarke,
Submission No. "A"10-72-10
As a matter of record the whole Committee inspected this
property on Friday, May 26, 1972. The following facts were noted:
1. The applicants' property is one house in a whole
row of houses built just before proper land
controls were imposed in the Township. There was
an extensive "ribbon development" on the east side
Of this particular north south road on 75' lots.
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1. cont'd - The character of the7area was thus established.
2. The house to the north has its main foundation
wall about 4' from the boundary and has a
projecting chimney about 12" in depth putting
the chimney within about 3' of the north boundary
of the property;
3. The house to the south side is 20' or so from the
south boundary of the Hancock lot and has an
asphalt driveway running to the rear of the house
with 2 cars parked on the asphalt at the time of
inspection. The car farthest to the north of the
driveway was parked within 4' of the boundary;
4. The second house to the south had a gravel drive-
way and a truck and boat parked beside the house
in a similar pattern between the house and the
lot boundary;
5. The third house to the south had a gravel drive-
way with a "parking" pattern with one car parked
thereon;
From these particular cases and following a general survey
of the entire area it is quite obvious that the'developer who
built all the houses in the area, set the houses close to the
building line on one side and farther away on the other to
allow for a wide drive and car parking on that side of the house.
In this area the topography is generally that a stream runs
southerly parallel to and east of the north south road. This
gives a very delightful "green belt" backyard for the houses and
also means the septic tanks are located close behind the houses
and probably land excavated from the basements built up the back
yard immediately adjacent to the house where the septic tanks
were placed.
The most easterly extreme of the back yards is 12 to 15'
lower than grade at the rear of the house. The fact that there
is such a "green belt" makes the grass and vegetation green
and beautiful.
To require any garage to be placed in the applicants' back
yard close to the house would interfere with the septic system
and to place the garage farther back in the year yard would
present too serious a grade problem.
The Committee were concerned that this decision will obviously
create an "area" precedent. In spite of that, a decision must be
made. The Committee were concerned that such a decision will, in
effect, reduce side yards in the area to a very basic minimum.
To deny the application, however, would be to deny garages to the
People living in these homes.
While the Committee do not want to encourage a wholesale
usurpation of the function of the Planning Board, it is clear
that an agricultural zoning in this area is simply unrealistic.'
It is a "ribbon development;"non-conforming use" inherited from
the days of no controls.
On these very particular facts the application was granted JJ
on motion by E.F.R. Osborne, seconded by K. Schoenmaker subject
to the following conditions:.
1. TAKE WARNING that this decision, for a minor
variance of the Clarke Township Committee of
Adjustment IS NOT FINAL AND BINDING until the
time for appeal by any interested party has lapsed
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Meeting in Committee May 267 1972:
1. cont'd - under the terms of the Planning Act of the Province.
of Ontario. THIS TIME FOR APPEAL IS 14 DAYS FROM
THE DATE that the minutes of this decision have
been mailed to the Minister of Municipal Affairs
of the Province of Ontario;
2. This decision should not be registered on title
until the said time for appeal has lapsed when the
applicants shall then register on title by way of
Deposit a copy of'the Form of Consent and shall
forthwith thereafter forward to the Secretary of
the Committee a duplicate Certificate of Deposit or
a Notarial copy thereof;
3. AND FURTHER that upon receipt by the Secretary of
the aforesaid document, the appropriate administrative
officials of the Township of Clarke will be authorized
to issue any and all necessary permits or to take any
steps necessary to implement this decision. CARRIED.
CLASSIFICATION 10 "A"
Application File No. "A"20-72
Northumberland & Durham Owner,
County Board of Education
Mr. Jack Hayden, Assistant
Business Administrator, Agent,
D'Arcy Street N., P.O. Box 470,
Cobourg, Ontario.
for part of Lot 31, Con S,
Township of Clarke,
(Leskard School)
Submission No. "A"20-72-11
As business arising from minutes of meeting May 23, 1972,
this application was brought forward for further consideration.
As a matter of record the whole Committee inspected this
property on Friday, May 260 1972. The following facts were noted:
1. This was a large lot atop a knoll on the north
side of a well travelled east -west road. Many
large sized trees exist on the lot and the
two storey building is well located on the lot
with a very long set back and adequate side yards;
2. Leskard is a Hamlet located to the south and east
of the well known "Mosport'" raceway. This lot
and dwelling with a little imagination could be
converted into a very beautiful country home.
A single family dwelling on a generous sized, well
located "high" lot could easily be created;
3. The Committee were unable to locate the exact area
of the septic tank, but the lot was on high ground
with adequate area for a proper septic tank and
this matter was left for any necessary action
by the Health Unit;
Application for permission to use existing two storey frame
school, with renovations and/or additions, as a single family
dwelling, rear yard relief of approximately 14' and floor
area relief of approximately 90 square feet granted on motion
by K. Schoenmaker, seconded bay_E.F.R. Osborne, subject to the
following conditions:
1. TAKE WARNING that this decision, for a minor
variance of the Clarke Township Committee of
Adjustment IS NOT FINAL AND BINDING until the
time for appeal by any interested party has lapsed
under the terms of the Planning Act of the Province
of Ontario.
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1. cont'd - THIS TIME FOR APPEAL IS 14 DAYS FROM THE DATE
that the minutes of this decision have been mailed to
the Minister of Municipal Affairs of the Province of
Ontario;
2.This decision should not be registered on title
until the said time for appeal has lapsed when the
applicant shall then register on title by way of
Deposit a copy of the Form of Consent, and shall J
forthwith thereafter forward to the Secretary of the J
Committee a duplicate Certificate of Deposit or a
Notarial copy thereof;
3.AND FURTHER that upon receipt by the Secretary of
the aforesaid document, the appropriate administrative
officials of the Township of Clarke will be authorized
to issue any and all necessary permits or to take any
steps necessary to implement this decision.
CARRIED.
CLASSIFICATION 10 "A"
Application File No."A"19-72
Northumberland & Durham Owner,
County Board of Education
Mr. Jack Hayden, Assistant
Business Administrator, Agent,
D'Arcy Street N., P.O. Box 470,
Cobourg, Ontario,
for part of Lot 23, Con 9,
Township of Clarke,
(Enterprise School)
Submission No. "A"19-72-12
As business arising from minutes of meeting May 23, 19722
this application was brought forward for further consideration.
As a matter of record the whole Committee inspected this
property on Friday, May 26, 1972. The following facts were
noted:
1. This land and buildings are located on the east side of
Highway 4115 and Highway #35 which are one at this
location, at the foot of Enterprise Hill; At the
top of Enterprise Hill, slightly to the north, Highway
#115 goes east to Peterborough and Highway #35 goes
north to the Town of Lindsay, Ontario;
2. The noise -of traffic is considerable for a rural
location, largely because of the hill;
3. The one storey frame schoolhouse appeared to be in
reasonable condition with the exception of large areas
of peeling paint;
4. The lot or former school yard is fenced and unfortunately
the school is poorly located, in that it is fairly
close to the southerly boundary fence. The nearest
house on the east side of 4115 Highway would be over
quarter mile away;
5. Abutting lands to the north and east have obviously
been reforested and the trees are generally 10 to
15' in height providing a scenic background. The
grass had obviously -not -been cut this year and desks
and boxes were stored in the building. In the opinion
of the Committee the building would be probably better
maintained if purchased and used as a single family
dwelling;.
Application for permission to use existing frame school, with
renovations and/or additions, as a single family dwelling, front-
ard relief of approximately 181, floor area relief of 382 sq. ft. rear
and r lf t
rantedeon,iee m 2 2 6 6 fe-Ey E.F.R. Osbgrne, seconded by K. Schoenmaker,
subject to the following conditions . . . . ,
McSTA9 in Committee May 26, 1972:
1. TAKE WARNING that this decision, for a minor variance
of the Clarke Township Committee of Adjustment IS
NOT FINAL AND BINDING until the time for appeal.by any
interested party has lapsed under the terms of the
Planning Act of the Province of Ontario. THIS TIME FOR APPEAL
IS 14 DAYS FROM THE DATE that the minutes of this decision
have been mailed to the Minister o� Municipal.Affairs of
the Province of Ontario;
2. This decision should not be registered on titl,e.until
the said time for appeal has lapsed when the applicant
shall then register on title by way of Deposit a copy of
the Form of Consent, and shall forthwith thereafter forward
to the Secretary of the Committee a duplicate Certificate
of Deposit or a Notarial copy thereof;
3. AND FURTHER that upon receipt by the Secretary of the
aforesaid document, the appropriate administrative officials
of the Township of Clarke will be authorized to issue any
and all necessary permits or to take any steps necessary
to implement this decision. CARRIED.
CLASSIFICATION 10 "A"
Application File -No. "B"16-72
Andrew Sutch, Owner,
R.R. #3, Pontypool, Ontario,
for part of Lot 18, Con 10,
Township of Clarke,
Submission No. B1116-72 -
As business arising from minutes of May 23, 1972, ,this application
was presented for further consideration.
As a matter of record the whole Committee inspected this property
and the following facts were noted:
1. The Committee were accompanied by Mr. and Mrs. Sutch.
The large greenhouse, kilns and many other facts all
verified that these lands had obviously been used for
many years as a tobacco farm;
2. There is no doubt that Mr. Sutch is entitled to come
under the specific provision of a "bona fide farmer"
and the sale of his tobacco rights entails the sale
of land as per Government regulations. His discontinuance
of tobacco farming requires the sale of land to convey
away his marketing board rights;
The Secretary was instructed to request a proper Plan of Survey,
certified and prepared by an Ontario Land Surveyor and this application
was adjourned awaiting receipt of the requested material.
CLASSIFICATION 10 "A"
Theproperties of Messrs.'Elmer Harris and Bernard Callanan were
also inspected, but due to the fact that correspondence is to
be received from Mr. E.R. Woodyard, Secretary, Police Trustees,
Orono, Ontario, these applications were adjourned until the requested
material is received.
General Business - The salary of the Secretary -Treasurer was
discussed and after due consideration it was moved by E.F.R.
Osborne, seconded by K. Schoenmaker that it be recommended to -the
Township Council that the hourly rate paid to the Secretary -Treasurer
of the Committee of Adjustment be increased by 25¢ per hour,
retroactive to the fiscal period for all Municipal employees' wage
increases. Carried.
Meeting adjourned at 4:45 p.m.
Secretary -Treasurer
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